In this special ‘in conversation’ recording (originally a Pathways to Politics alums event) Sarah Buckley, CEO of the Trawalla Foundation, speaks to Cathy McGowan AO, Former Independent MP for Indi, about “doing politics differently.”

Cathy discusses her passion for politics, her vision for the future of Australian democracy, her campaign for the Federal seat of Indi and what she learnt along the way about leadership, the importance of women speaking up and the ways communities can band together to make change.