Former New Zealand Prime Minister Dame Jacinda Ardern reflects on why empathy, authenticity and values-driven leadership matter at a time when many people feel disconnected from politics.

In an interview with ABC’s Conversations, Jacinda Ardern draws on her experiences leading New Zealand through moments of profound challenge. She discusses the importance of showing emotion, leading with compassion and creating a more empathetic politics.

“If we want to rebuild people’s trust and confidence in politics, and we want to bring a bit more humanity in — which I think should be the goal — then we should allow ourselves to be human too.”